Your podcast has highlighted this dilemma and shown that logical consistency is an excellent North Star, but that all politics is the art of the possible. The possible happens in the real world which could put LAA types in the situation where they could gain advantage by abandoning logical consistency.
I think its a bit of a tightrope because LAA don't want to take the devil's bargain by acting just like the hypocritical liberals and conservatives. I feel like that would be a spiritual death, to know you were making bad arguments once you've "seen the light" of logical rigor. So like you hinted at, the question is How?
What does calculated, advantaged, and deliberate logical inconsistency look like? How can it be weaponized and used to "turn" folks to the anti-state worldview?
I think emotional appeals would work well, because many people are already operating on that level. Maybe like asking them how do they feel knowing their children are watching them comply with the Mark of the Beast, etc? How long before you leave your abusive husband, the State?
I enjoy hearing your work on the podcast as well as the new Stack. Thanks Man
I love fern hear both Christians and Trump supporting libertarians and any other bird brains who supported a Trump claiming “he didn’t start any new wars” and I refer to his own words where he supported and started a “war on opioids” as well as possibly World War 3, the mist costly and deadly war in human history under the pretext of his “war on a virus.” If we are to look at how 400,000 Americans actually died in a year, we’d likely find medical malfeasance which is typically the third leading cause of death in America but which will likely not see a single case in 2020 as hospital deaths went unseen by civilian eyes. Do we trust that our enemy like in any war would declare any death they caused as any less than a casualty of the pretext? Would they really say, “this was a terrible mistake for which I should be convicted.” I expect much more along the lines of “I was just following protocol” of which for Covid there was a negligence among health agencies to provide one and there was a propensity to demonize and discredit anyone who tried to formulate one before their Frankenstein technology was finished being created. I never call what they are doing a vaccine because it is an experimental mRNA technology and it is being rolled out on the public in no more finesse than what people were hung for after Nuremberg. All the govt programs that were behind this latest govt operation are no less than a unified war effort. At what other time in history of the good of mankind have agencies unified? Never. If it weren’t a war against humanity, against the domestic citizens agencies would be working and playing against each other as they are in any time but war time. This is a unified plundering and massacre and it’s not just the 400,000 deaths of a pretext but all the suicides, all the deaths of despair, all the deaths of an intentionally disabled medical system. The only part of this death machine called medicine that ever worked was targeted and destroyed. When we look back on history, this will be seen as nothing less than a full blown nuclear attack on the public and who was at the helm form the get go? Oh, yeah, that buffoon you said “never started any new wars.” I’m sure wherever he is on earth, he’ll be rewarded for playing his part down to his last speech on so-called, completely orchestrated “insurrection day.” I’m sorry but potentially the greatest war criminal president in history is not going to get off so easily through my lazy rhetoric. I always say it, “every president is slightly worse than the last”, but Trump catapulted over any measures of his predecessors in bringing down his own supporters and setting them personally up to be the targets of the actual war machine for the next four years at least and they still keep making excuses for him and lauding him like the complete mind controlled cattle going to slaughter that they are. Sorry, probably should have put this in my own blog but it kind of fell out of my brain after reading your piece. All this to say, it’s pretty hard to stay philosophically or intellectually consistent if you don’t have any sense of self preservation, and I am going to sound like an insane person to say it again, personal boundaries that you know innately you should have.
The issue I see is in the moral stack of an individual or group. Often, we are at odds with our moral injustices to mitigate and are forced to prioritize one over the other, likely decided on emotion, which is open to naïve realism conflict. The logical consistency of the moral stack is important, but its explanation is often incoherent, especially when compared across times and slightly different contexts. We are, after all, apes barely out of the jungle that make mouth noises to represent concepts. Not all communication is encoded and decoded correctly to include non-verbal, something often a more important component of a message.
Righteous indignation is powerful. It's genesis is as much a tribe discriminator as anything else. If you hit the right chords, it can unite tribes against a common enemy. Perhaps we are in such a moment where the right mixture of messaging and messenger is enough to create the butterfly effect to exploit the chaos, but I can't see it yet. As much as I love the libertarian/localist/anarchist right, there is so much infighting and purity Olympics at the moment it is a turn off to outsiders, or in my case, insiders. Maybe a faction will be crowned king soon and their won't be a rebellion from within that undercuts their power. Not sure I am hopeful there given the discord between factions. Success will require a coalition of strange bedfellows if we hope to destroy leviathan before my 7 and 8 year-olds have 7 and 8 year-olds. In the meantime, we all have our roles to play, even all you can do is ignore them as much as possible. Good luck comrades!
Your podcast has highlighted this dilemma and shown that logical consistency is an excellent North Star, but that all politics is the art of the possible. The possible happens in the real world which could put LAA types in the situation where they could gain advantage by abandoning logical consistency.
I think its a bit of a tightrope because LAA don't want to take the devil's bargain by acting just like the hypocritical liberals and conservatives. I feel like that would be a spiritual death, to know you were making bad arguments once you've "seen the light" of logical rigor. So like you hinted at, the question is How?
What does calculated, advantaged, and deliberate logical inconsistency look like? How can it be weaponized and used to "turn" folks to the anti-state worldview?
I think emotional appeals would work well, because many people are already operating on that level. Maybe like asking them how do they feel knowing their children are watching them comply with the Mark of the Beast, etc? How long before you leave your abusive husband, the State?
I enjoy hearing your work on the podcast as well as the new Stack. Thanks Man
Thank you Reed!
I love fern hear both Christians and Trump supporting libertarians and any other bird brains who supported a Trump claiming “he didn’t start any new wars” and I refer to his own words where he supported and started a “war on opioids” as well as possibly World War 3, the mist costly and deadly war in human history under the pretext of his “war on a virus.” If we are to look at how 400,000 Americans actually died in a year, we’d likely find medical malfeasance which is typically the third leading cause of death in America but which will likely not see a single case in 2020 as hospital deaths went unseen by civilian eyes. Do we trust that our enemy like in any war would declare any death they caused as any less than a casualty of the pretext? Would they really say, “this was a terrible mistake for which I should be convicted.” I expect much more along the lines of “I was just following protocol” of which for Covid there was a negligence among health agencies to provide one and there was a propensity to demonize and discredit anyone who tried to formulate one before their Frankenstein technology was finished being created. I never call what they are doing a vaccine because it is an experimental mRNA technology and it is being rolled out on the public in no more finesse than what people were hung for after Nuremberg. All the govt programs that were behind this latest govt operation are no less than a unified war effort. At what other time in history of the good of mankind have agencies unified? Never. If it weren’t a war against humanity, against the domestic citizens agencies would be working and playing against each other as they are in any time but war time. This is a unified plundering and massacre and it’s not just the 400,000 deaths of a pretext but all the suicides, all the deaths of despair, all the deaths of an intentionally disabled medical system. The only part of this death machine called medicine that ever worked was targeted and destroyed. When we look back on history, this will be seen as nothing less than a full blown nuclear attack on the public and who was at the helm form the get go? Oh, yeah, that buffoon you said “never started any new wars.” I’m sure wherever he is on earth, he’ll be rewarded for playing his part down to his last speech on so-called, completely orchestrated “insurrection day.” I’m sorry but potentially the greatest war criminal president in history is not going to get off so easily through my lazy rhetoric. I always say it, “every president is slightly worse than the last”, but Trump catapulted over any measures of his predecessors in bringing down his own supporters and setting them personally up to be the targets of the actual war machine for the next four years at least and they still keep making excuses for him and lauding him like the complete mind controlled cattle going to slaughter that they are. Sorry, probably should have put this in my own blog but it kind of fell out of my brain after reading your piece. All this to say, it’s pretty hard to stay philosophically or intellectually consistent if you don’t have any sense of self preservation, and I am going to sound like an insane person to say it again, personal boundaries that you know innately you should have.
The issue I see is in the moral stack of an individual or group. Often, we are at odds with our moral injustices to mitigate and are forced to prioritize one over the other, likely decided on emotion, which is open to naïve realism conflict. The logical consistency of the moral stack is important, but its explanation is often incoherent, especially when compared across times and slightly different contexts. We are, after all, apes barely out of the jungle that make mouth noises to represent concepts. Not all communication is encoded and decoded correctly to include non-verbal, something often a more important component of a message.
Righteous indignation is powerful. It's genesis is as much a tribe discriminator as anything else. If you hit the right chords, it can unite tribes against a common enemy. Perhaps we are in such a moment where the right mixture of messaging and messenger is enough to create the butterfly effect to exploit the chaos, but I can't see it yet. As much as I love the libertarian/localist/anarchist right, there is so much infighting and purity Olympics at the moment it is a turn off to outsiders, or in my case, insiders. Maybe a faction will be crowned king soon and their won't be a rebellion from within that undercuts their power. Not sure I am hopeful there given the discord between factions. Success will require a coalition of strange bedfellows if we hope to destroy leviathan before my 7 and 8 year-olds have 7 and 8 year-olds. In the meantime, we all have our roles to play, even all you can do is ignore them as much as possible. Good luck comrades!