I apologize for commenting a few days late, but the Martin Luther King Jr. portion of the following tweet serves as a jumping off point for me. And I’m not targeting Shitlibs with this one. Everything Pedro Gonzalez mentions in his Tweet, and the Substack article he links to is true. Samuel T. Francis wrote an
Everyone should check out the Francis piece that Pete links here.
I was born in 1980 and any counter argument to King or having an MLK Day was foreign to me up until Skeptical Waves published that video.
In fourth grade I proudly declared to my parents that MLK was the greatest person ever. They did a good job talking me out of that one (they should have pulled me out of public school), but the idea that there was another side of the story was completely lost.
Why? Bc "conservatives" barely pretended to fight the holiday and never spoke on it again after takinv the L. Now they lionize him and appeal to his moral authority.
MLK's speeches were written by Stanley Levison, an American businessman and lawyer who was an activist in progressive causes. He was a close friend of MLK, for whom he helped write speeches, raise funds, and organize events.
New York Times: "Levison professionalized the fundraising of the organization and took on many of the publicity tasks, in addition to serving as Dr. King's literary agent. He was also a close adviser to Dr. King and a ghostwriter for him."
I'm also willing to belief that Levison was a pragmatist of Critical Race Theory and maybe Analytical Marxism. He's considered a "anti-racist activist" when in reality he's simply anti-White.
I was in my early twenties, hanging out in a bar, playing music part time, when this drunk, old, black gentlemen started telling me all about King's infidelities. I followed up with some research when I got home and found out he wasn't making it all up. It set some dominos in motion for me.
Born in 1986 and immigrated to NYC when I was 3, grew up in NY, NJ proud Texan for almost a decade now.
I’d have to agree 100% on this assessment of MLK along with IIRC your or someone else on your show’s point that in America in 2023 we can openly opine about whether Christmas and Santa Claus should be abolished but even openly voicing the idea of abolishing MLK day could potentially get you fired from your job.
I’ve only heard true real counterarguments for MLK vs Malcolm X within the last 2-3 years and it’s appears to be entirely due to the tiny but incredibly powerful ethnoreligious backing of the former vs the latter.
Growing up in government schools it was taken as a given that he was America’s Gandhi leaving aside the fact that that guy too was also playing the part of shill for the banksters.
You’ll notice that figures like this who teach the Sheeple to be good and subservient are laudably propped up by the Regime where ever and when ever in time and place they happen to be.
It’s a useful tool to indoctrinate children from the time of kindergarten onwards. All of that is collapsing in free fall speed in real time now right before our eyes.
Now that accounts of Pedro Gonzales’ size with 100k+ followers are openly pointing out these obvious facts by not just touching a 3rd rail but straight up hammering it, we can now easily tell who are for lack of a better term the Actual Dissident Right as opposed to Con Inc.
Con Inc is too busy prostrating themselves in front of the Enemy adopting their frame on literally every issue attempting to feebly corral any truly Right Wing backlash that Trump represented while Actual Dissident Right thinkers will reflexively tell the Enemy to go get fucked.
It’s the difference between Sean Hannity and Sam Hyde or between Charlie Kirk and Bronze Age Pervert or Ben Shapiro and Thomas777, etc.
There’s no stopping what happens next because 2023 will make the previous 3 years look like the previous decade before that. ChatGPT, AIArt, Urbit, TwitterFiles, and more will make the rate of change far more rapid than we’re accustomed to. We may be able to code our way out of this by leveraging ChatGPT to drastically speed up Urbit development but that’s another story.
Until then thanks Pete for doing all the heavy lifting in terms of maintaining a presence online so that the rest of us know we’re not going crazy and that it is in fact the rest of the world that’s lost it’s mind but now waking up.
Can MLK's quotes and noteworthy public persona be separated from his behaviors, the shift his mistold legacy had on society generations after his life and even from his character?
Most of what people are taught about Mr. King, the impression left behind (see what I did there?) are almost exclusively the parts that are good, not just in his eyes but for humanity. These are the only parts that both the left and the right are taught to remember. They don't teach us much in school about anybody. It's just the highlights, how it impacted humanity immediately and directly.
The quote that his kids should be judged by their character, it's not wrong or harmful. Every parent the world over wants that for their children if they are a good person or unless they are privileged enough to get extra points on their college application by checking anything other than white. Wanting your children to be treated with ethnic exclusion to the detriment of others is sick and disgusting. Thinking that ethnic supremacy could amount to fairness is daft. While those boxes are the brainchild of what MLK promoted, still, they aren't his inventions. It's the checkboxes that taught some parents to prefer their children indeed be respected for their skin color.
Pride, one of the deadly sins, somehow lead its promoters toward a devastating turn. It shouldn't surprise anyone that pride being hailed as a virtue, a greater, louder-lauded virtue than justice, fairness or equality (don't start with me on equality, now, Pete) would lead people to the wrong end.
Still, MLK is remembered for championing nonviolence and tolerance. We can't blame him that the people he fought for couldn't leave it at that and used his legacy to fight for racial supremacy and in many ways today, state sanctioned violence. They wanted the power.
The parts most often repeated about King are those that the left has a strong stake in the right and their children knowing. But that's exactly why the left today seem to be the ones with the most blindness to his past. We are living in a woke era of transforming Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day, a time where we look back at the contributions to society (all the good things anyone did) and the left cancel anyone to the right of Drag Queen Story Hour because of the also true BAD THINGS anyone did in their personal or professional life. They play picky choosy. The left will make excuses for Jimmy Savile and Woody Allen who contributed next to nothing to humanity. In Allen's case: depravity. The left like to pretend that whatever positive evolution humanity made in the wake of a dynamic figure, in exclusive cases, made zero lasting positive impression on the whole of humanity and the figure, rather than being taught as a whole person, character flaws and all, should just be forgotten.
You sound like you're saying, they're right, or tit for tat? I think we need to teach all of the story: the good, the bad and the ugly and let people decide based on the context of how people behaved in general during an era how we judge their actions today. I don't know if you're right or wrong, but I give you credit. That's a strong stance to take. Maybe we should judge King as he wished, based on the entire content of his character and not just the bread crumbs left by those who laud pride as the highest virtue.
Every “right wing” gatekeeper who praises King should be forced to park their car on one of his boulevards overnight.
Everyone should check out the Francis piece that Pete links here.
I was born in 1980 and any counter argument to King or having an MLK Day was foreign to me up until Skeptical Waves published that video.
In fourth grade I proudly declared to my parents that MLK was the greatest person ever. They did a good job talking me out of that one (they should have pulled me out of public school), but the idea that there was another side of the story was completely lost.
Why? Bc "conservatives" barely pretended to fight the holiday and never spoke on it again after takinv the L. Now they lionize him and appeal to his moral authority.
Conservatives have to go.
MLK's speeches were written by Stanley Levison, an American businessman and lawyer who was an activist in progressive causes. He was a close friend of MLK, for whom he helped write speeches, raise funds, and organize events.
New York Times: "Levison professionalized the fundraising of the organization and took on many of the publicity tasks, in addition to serving as Dr. King's literary agent. He was also a close adviser to Dr. King and a ghostwriter for him."
I'm also willing to belief that Levison was a pragmatist of Critical Race Theory and maybe Analytical Marxism. He's considered a "anti-racist activist" when in reality he's simply anti-White.
The normie right is the most irresponsible group on earth. Criminally ignorant.
Those are all great examples of the right arguing within the Left's framework, and moving left. Some of them may not even realize it either.
I hope everyone in Boston has to pretend that the hideously feculent MLK statue is anything but a visual assault on the mind.
I was in my early twenties, hanging out in a bar, playing music part time, when this drunk, old, black gentlemen started telling me all about King's infidelities. I followed up with some research when I got home and found out he wasn't making it all up. It set some dominos in motion for me.
Born in 1986 and immigrated to NYC when I was 3, grew up in NY, NJ proud Texan for almost a decade now.
I’d have to agree 100% on this assessment of MLK along with IIRC your or someone else on your show’s point that in America in 2023 we can openly opine about whether Christmas and Santa Claus should be abolished but even openly voicing the idea of abolishing MLK day could potentially get you fired from your job.
I’ve only heard true real counterarguments for MLK vs Malcolm X within the last 2-3 years and it’s appears to be entirely due to the tiny but incredibly powerful ethnoreligious backing of the former vs the latter.
Growing up in government schools it was taken as a given that he was America’s Gandhi leaving aside the fact that that guy too was also playing the part of shill for the banksters.
You’ll notice that figures like this who teach the Sheeple to be good and subservient are laudably propped up by the Regime where ever and when ever in time and place they happen to be.
It’s a useful tool to indoctrinate children from the time of kindergarten onwards. All of that is collapsing in free fall speed in real time now right before our eyes.
Now that accounts of Pedro Gonzales’ size with 100k+ followers are openly pointing out these obvious facts by not just touching a 3rd rail but straight up hammering it, we can now easily tell who are for lack of a better term the Actual Dissident Right as opposed to Con Inc.
Con Inc is too busy prostrating themselves in front of the Enemy adopting their frame on literally every issue attempting to feebly corral any truly Right Wing backlash that Trump represented while Actual Dissident Right thinkers will reflexively tell the Enemy to go get fucked.
It’s the difference between Sean Hannity and Sam Hyde or between Charlie Kirk and Bronze Age Pervert or Ben Shapiro and Thomas777, etc.
There’s no stopping what happens next because 2023 will make the previous 3 years look like the previous decade before that. ChatGPT, AIArt, Urbit, TwitterFiles, and more will make the rate of change far more rapid than we’re accustomed to. We may be able to code our way out of this by leveraging ChatGPT to drastically speed up Urbit development but that’s another story.
Until then thanks Pete for doing all the heavy lifting in terms of maintaining a presence online so that the rest of us know we’re not going crazy and that it is in fact the rest of the world that’s lost it’s mind but now waking up.
Can MLK's quotes and noteworthy public persona be separated from his behaviors, the shift his mistold legacy had on society generations after his life and even from his character?
Most of what people are taught about Mr. King, the impression left behind (see what I did there?) are almost exclusively the parts that are good, not just in his eyes but for humanity. These are the only parts that both the left and the right are taught to remember. They don't teach us much in school about anybody. It's just the highlights, how it impacted humanity immediately and directly.
The quote that his kids should be judged by their character, it's not wrong or harmful. Every parent the world over wants that for their children if they are a good person or unless they are privileged enough to get extra points on their college application by checking anything other than white. Wanting your children to be treated with ethnic exclusion to the detriment of others is sick and disgusting. Thinking that ethnic supremacy could amount to fairness is daft. While those boxes are the brainchild of what MLK promoted, still, they aren't his inventions. It's the checkboxes that taught some parents to prefer their children indeed be respected for their skin color.
Pride, one of the deadly sins, somehow lead its promoters toward a devastating turn. It shouldn't surprise anyone that pride being hailed as a virtue, a greater, louder-lauded virtue than justice, fairness or equality (don't start with me on equality, now, Pete) would lead people to the wrong end.
Still, MLK is remembered for championing nonviolence and tolerance. We can't blame him that the people he fought for couldn't leave it at that and used his legacy to fight for racial supremacy and in many ways today, state sanctioned violence. They wanted the power.
The parts most often repeated about King are those that the left has a strong stake in the right and their children knowing. But that's exactly why the left today seem to be the ones with the most blindness to his past. We are living in a woke era of transforming Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day, a time where we look back at the contributions to society (all the good things anyone did) and the left cancel anyone to the right of Drag Queen Story Hour because of the also true BAD THINGS anyone did in their personal or professional life. They play picky choosy. The left will make excuses for Jimmy Savile and Woody Allen who contributed next to nothing to humanity. In Allen's case: depravity. The left like to pretend that whatever positive evolution humanity made in the wake of a dynamic figure, in exclusive cases, made zero lasting positive impression on the whole of humanity and the figure, rather than being taught as a whole person, character flaws and all, should just be forgotten.
You sound like you're saying, they're right, or tit for tat? I think we need to teach all of the story: the good, the bad and the ugly and let people decide based on the context of how people behaved in general during an era how we judge their actions today. I don't know if you're right or wrong, but I give you credit. That's a strong stance to take. Maybe we should judge King as he wished, based on the entire content of his character and not just the bread crumbs left by those who laud pride as the highest virtue.
"I have a scheme"
- Michael King Jr.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And boy are the prizes for this game a doozy.