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Zz's avatar

I choose the Amish as my allie.

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I think you would be dead wrong about how flexible the Right really is. You have a better chance of joining Russell Brand and Glenn Beck as they become anarchists than you do of getting the right to run a secession govt closer to your way. How many of these people on the Right do you really know and how well do you know them? Charles Stanley has recently done an entire podcast style series (if you don't know who he is, you don't understand the Right) on the book of Revelations. He is claiming the Mark of the Best is NOT the clot shot. And how (and I am taking this from the title page on the antiChrist segment) the antiChrist "is anti-Israel". He means the state of Israel, mind you. They know EXACTLY what these wars are about: the end times. Trump hasn't persuaded them to ask that question AT ALL, IMHO. And they, unlike the Left, not only crave your annihilation, but also their own- so they can be with Jesus. Tucker Carlson is not representative of the Right, nor Glenn Beck, nor Russell Brand. These are the centrist outliers who are starting to embrace anarchy. And every hint of stopping the state from bringing us closer to the sudden death the Right fantasizes about and the Right are CERTAIN is happening NOW is met with vehement anger and accusations of being "not truly saved." All the family relations I still talk to are southern Baptists, and they have been well programmed to WANT those wars above their own freedom or anything else. If you break up the union of support for Israel, if you even let them know you'd consider it as a win, you are working for Satan and have forgotten the way of Jesus. These people would embrace Qanon before they would embrace the end to wars. They would line up for 30 boosters to keep the union supporting Israel from stopping the wars. I don't think you are any more realistic than those you mock. You just got as trapped in your own echochamber as anyone else and lost sight of the only movement that is actually having wins right now. You and those around you are clueless about what the Right wants if you think most of them want freedom more than anything else or to be left alone. They want to accelerate what is happening toward the collapse of civilization more than you ever did, but they are hoping for all out, world wide destruction. They are certain they are going to be whisked away moments before impact, not unlike a Jim Jones suicide cult. Except, they are probably still most of America by percentage. If you aren't doing anything about that desire for earthly destruction, if you don't have a plan for that, you don't know what you are up against and have no business telling anarchists (or agorists) they are out of touch. I say this with a little tough love here. I think we're all unrealistic. It's clash of the Titans time. The only win is if we have more people on our side defecting from either camp, I think the best way is to move sensible centrists. And they seem to be most influenced by anarchist principles at least in my experience of watching people daily, in droves leaving camp state. As per your comment to Charlotte, no one would let you run cover for agorists in your little Lichtenstein. You'd never get that far if the Right is willing to destroy the planet to stop you Lichtenstein from happening. Di Lorenzo says Lincoln underestimated the cost of war to life and economy get what he wanted. These people make Lincoln seem like a savior of the world by comparison.

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